Mind you, you'll learn how the trainer works and get kind of 'used to it' and anticipate. It works great with Zwift, Trainer Road, and My E Training. Same happens when the cadence slows down, they have to increase the resistance. Leveled on the trainer was nose down on the road. The same problem also manifests itself during training sessions with ERG mode, again not a problem if you need to maintain a powerlevel for a longer amount of time, but sometimes you have these very short burst of power blocks, then it struggles. Peggy. Is the Saris H3 really that much better than this model? 1 snapped belt the only problem during this time. Also, if this wasn’t the case, then Zwift wouldn’t already be discussing setting this to 100% for certain races. I use the Direto combined with Zwift, very realistic and accurate power. It could be longer. La saison estivale touche à sa fin mais vous ne voulez en aucuns cas ranger votre vélo de course. I haven't had any issues in the 2.5 years I've had it. Thanks for the great reviews – narrowed down my options to the Saris H3 and Elite Direto XR. Well, it’s not loud. So for example, Amazon Germany shows that same fan as 19EUR: link to amzn.to. Easy setup Accurate power Realistic inertia Helpful support Budget-friendly. I had some issues though, initially the trainer felt like the belt was sliding especially on steeper climbs which was annoying. Easy setup Accurate power Quiet, Good home trainer, I was really satisfied, precise, quiet, easy for assembling I cover all the units to buy (and avoid) for the 2020-2021 indoor training season. Of course, it’s not the same feel as you’d see with a KICKR or Tacx NEO or Saris H3, but those are all more expensive trainers. Yeah, there’s a bug in the table whereby if there isn’t a review (such as that cheaper trainer desk), then it loops back to the current review. Though also, historically speaking they didn’t have an easy way to issue those till the Upgrado app last year. I was so glad I finaly would be able to train indoors. The Direto X follows the same app compatibility standards as previous Elite products, and essentially follows the industry norms as you’d expect from a high-end trainer. Thank you for raising this question. Instead, what matters is actually a harder metric to make clear – which is the ability to simulate high grades and lower speeds (especially if you’re a heavier cyclist). Then it converts the power to the speed considering the incline and your weight using a unique formula for all the trainers/users. We are shipping units as we speak. I've noticed I can mitigate this problem if I stop or slow down my pedaling about 5 seconds before the high intensity interval. But it’s below that of most people’s fans, unless you have some quiet fan or something. The whole reason I like zwift and bought the original Drivo was so that I could train with the proper simulated grade. I would definitely buy this trainer again, or a newer model from Elite. I have no doubt that a more expensive trainer gives a more realistic ride feeling and has less issues, but for the price it is okay. Firstly, ERG mode can fluctuate more than I would like, and it is slow to recognise that I have stopped pedaling particularly on the downhill (low resistance) sections. That said, it was very easy to setup for zwift. I’m not too bothered about if the watts are correct or not as long as they are not drastically too low . One of the nuts has loosened, and now I cannot tighten one leg. link to elitesrl.zendesk.com. The Elite Direto XR is somewhat the equivalent of a trainer graduating up from high school to university. I have Tiagra, the trainer came with a 105 cassette, so I swapped it with a brand new one I bought. Which, in turn gets us to the quick overall specs: – Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart support, including FE-C and FTMS, plus power/speed/cadence broadcasting Now it is as quiet as it was before (it is not the most quiet trainer on the world...) and I have no doubt that it will work for a long time. For example, it’ll now replicate grades of 24%. However, there are a few obvious cadence spikes in there, where the green line spikes up for a second or two, to 120rpm+: Finally, let’s look at that previously mentioned Mont Ventoux session on Zwift. And the noise was actually from the derailleur as well. How is the ERG mode responsiveness of this trainer? Oh, and here’s the power adapter side going into the wall: On the non-sexy side of the trainer there’s the status lights. they recommend you calibrate only using their App as the setting is saved in the trainer itself. There are two options: Create a new account; Dont know if it can calibrate through zwift? P.S. So the pros are the accuracy, durability, raliability, ride feel and customer support. For most of the users, Direto works fine with ERG mode, but we’d like to go deeper on that. I had an issue with their My E Training software not being able to recognize my combination cadence/speed sensor. Easy to use and setup along with the price being reasonable from Marty September 9, 2020 I purchase this trainer going on 2 years and coming from a wheel on trainer this was night and day. The only problem? - Very accurate power I broke its belt once during a very intense sprint. Easy setup Accurate power Well-built Quiet. As for the rest, for my level of cycling, it’s more than enough. 1) It's not quite, and does this seeking thing that sounds like an old dot matrix printer. Most notable of those options is what Elite calls Power Meter Link (PML). Why haven’t you yet released a review for XYZ product you mentioned months ago? Has always just worked. I suspect the change from Level to ERG mode is what’s causing the issue. On the attached picture, you see the test done by a friend of mine on Kickr Core and by me on the Direto XR. 2 years without mayor problems. - With a change in ability within a structured training (ERG mode), a little more time is needed to reach the correct level. Does anybody have any clues what could be the problem ? great “budget” wheel off smart trainer from Tall_Tri_Guy September 8, 2020 This is a great little trainer for the price. No direct drive trainer is cheap, but relative to other DD smart trainers, I really think you get the bang for your buck. Though, it also sounded like that last November. Ok, with all the basics out of the way, let’s talk app compatibility. Inertia feels good although perhaps a little *too* much on the flywheel as the wattage doesn't drop to 0 as quickly as my Favero pedals The Direto product series has always been the mid-range offering, but with the increases in power, inertia, and ERG mode control – it effectively becomes a freshman college student. Ok, that sucks! Still, I think most people will be good with it. – Increased grade simulation from 18% to 24% Not really a problem for longer climbs, but if you ride Titans Cove, which goes up & down the whole time at a rapid pace, the trainer can't keep up with the constant changes in elevation, giving a strange type of disconnect between what you see on the screen and what your legs feel. Based on my testing, even a small amount can lead to improved comfort while seated. You probably stumbled upon here looking for a review of a sports gadget. Carrying this repair out was simple with helpful video guides available. Having the capability to switch was very convenient especially when my main bike using shimano broke and if i had not had the capability to switch over the Campy system I would have been awhile to ride especially when the weather got nasty outside. Very satisfied with the first gen Direto! Until I ran out of juice, my cadence was stable. Get all your awesome high quality DCR kit and gear here! Peter. If you want to calibrate it, we suggest that you do it through My E-Training. And it feels good, but I’m not sure it’s appreciably different enough that most people be able to notice unless the two were side by side. - Wide base - sprint with no fear of rocking Happy with my purchase 6 months on. Great value from jk September 13, 2020  Well-built Budget-friendly, Reliable and accurate from johnclees September 12, 2020 Had this trainer for 2 years and it's been faultless. This is a super basic trainer mat, which is exactly what you'll see me use. If this would be true ERG mode should be impossible to use and looking at your review it is not what u have experienced. Some very straight forward set up and all calibrated for my new found passion for zone based training. The next bit is stability. Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. Now there is more to the story – while the Suito was in transit, I snagged a rare craigslist offer for a pair of Favero Assioma pedals. Thx. They’re updating their specs now to conform to how it’s usually spec’d. Can I customize workouts let’s say in garmin connect (as I am doing right now) and sent it to the trainer to follow after (like I am sending it right now to my watch) let’s say to hold me in a specific power zone for a given time? Overall I'd say it's great value for money and really helped me be motivated to train through dark, cold wet winters and throughout lockdown when combined with Zwift. If you set it to 10, your power data should be more stable. Can struggle in erg mode as it is not that consistent, but otherwise a good trainer. After removing all the plastic stuffs, you’ve got the trainer ready to go, which takes precisely three steps: A) Unfold legs Even without subscription can still use the app for the basic uses and the calibration. One core test I do with all trainers though is responsiveness: How quickly does it respond to ERG mode changes? The noise of the trainer is not a concern. Power is accurate as measured against my vector pedals and the calibration has remained spot on with no adjusting necessary. Easy setup Well-built Portable/storable Budget-friendly, Easy to set up out of the box, pretty much ready to go straight away. I have the original one, it's quite noisy altering resistance although I hear that there were noisy and quiet ones (I obviously got the noisy one !) Direto XR is overall really excellent unit, ride feel is great, it is super for racing even on hardest climbs in sim mode, nice design, etc. Here’s that data: Now in this case there’s a slight offset between the Direto XR and the two other power meters. I have had no issues with the trainer itself after having it for about two years. I had to order them from Italy and pay almost $30 for shipping for a $10 adapter set. They work just fine. Garmin does it as well. My colleagues will reach out asap to fix it out. Do we know that for sure? OVERALL: Alors si vous ne disposez pas d’énormément de place vous pouvez opter pou… The Elite DIRETO XR is the home trainer you were looking for your indoor training this season. No problem, hope elite can help you sort it out. Great work, as usual ! HOME TRAINER ELITE DIRETO X au prix de ★ 799€ ★ sur Decathlon.fr. ERG mode worked perfectly, depending on the device, really. Elite Direto gen 1 from jones.spence September 8, 2020 Easy setup Portable/storable Budget-friendly, Great bang for your bucks – unfortunately no raiser block from GeertCab September 8, 2020 I have tested both the Direto and Direto 2. Very easy to setup and connect. The cadence sensor it’self is cheap and would be great if they didn’t charge so much for postage. Which is too bad b/c I do actually like my Direto apart from the ERG mode issue. The Direto XR is at 805€ including shipping and the CORE is at 850€ including shipping, a Shimano 105 cassette and the tools. Zwift and my Direto are still going strong today. Notons que l’accès au réglage des pieds n’est pas hy… Original Direto has been SUPER reliable and steady! from PoorPossum September 8, 2020 Pros: - The inertia of the wheel could be better. Jut to be sure that i’ve not got it wrong: is the Drivo lineup dead? 2 years of satisfaction from Kroostybat76 September 9, 2020 Easy setup Accurate power Quiet, Its all good from DocG September 8, 2020 Never had any issues with it, haven't had to use support as it hasn't given any problems, ANT+ chip on computer died but that was replaced easily, not related to the trainer specifically When you increase your cadence, at the same resistance level the power increases. I've never had anything to complain about, First Direct Drive from Welshlady Sue September 8, 2020 After years using a Tacx wheel-on trainer, we switched to the Elite Direto. Ciao And presumably the Zumo is long dead. I would definitely buy this trainer again, or a newer model from Elite. Packs away well & easy to calibrate whenever it does show a discrepancy on power/output which happens occasionally. Great I weigh 67-69kg and put out 600-900 watts during sprints on Zwift at the 100% Trainer Difficulty Setting. That would be really surprising to me. I’m still hoping that they will come to their senses and release an update if it’s feasible. I’ve added the Elite Direto XR into the product comparison database. Spin down calibration test with elite"s app is not very intuitive, but a bit of google searching and some forum reads will give good direction. In fact, Elite’s really been one of the leaders for years in supporting the various standards – including FTMS. I haven’t tried yet. As always for ERG mode, I used the smaller ring in the front chainring (as recommended by trainer company and app company, as it helps control flywheel speed). Thanks for the winky, Ray, but the first thing I did was change my trainer to 100%. I want to suffer on 15% hills to better prepare me for outdoor riding. Easy setup Accurate power Well-built Portable/storable Budget-friendly. I was told to put the performance up to 6 in my myETraining app from Elite. but after 7th km something happen and it started to work loudly, When calibrating the Direto XR on Zwift, did you find it was a “5-step” process instead of 3 (as it was with my Kickr Snap)? Then add drivechain losses of about 1-3% depending on how clean that is. 37kph is simply wrong. It's very sturdy. For example, one thing I noted that’s important in my review is putting your front chainring into the small ring (as every ERG app and trainer company recommends). Elite: Fingers crossed it should be September 2020 … apologies for the delay …. Worth a consideration, and the hack trick to try is some extra thick foam padding (excercise mats, firm foam sponges, etc) under the support feet of the trainer, to allow some leaning motion. I checked with Elite on this, and they’re going to start doing some testing to see if it’s possible to update the Direto X firmware with the new algorithm. But be mindful of the scale of this particular graph here. That gave me a good laugh. Easy setup Accurate power Realistic inertiaWell-built Quiet Budget-friendly. Also, the resistance get very high untill it is to hard to peddle. Power difference between Direto and Favero Assioma Duo power pedals less than half a percent. the improved resistance is of zero relevance to me. – Max 24% incline So if you intend using the trainer also for outdoor races for warm-ups and cool-downs, then a wheel-on trainer is more suitable. I don't think it's a current model. In this mode, no matter what gearing you use, the trainer will simply stay at 220w (or whatever you set it to). Wouldn’t be more accurate to call it speed sensor? That kinda makes sense because the Suito was new-new, whereas the Direto X was basically just a slightly revamped Direto. Quieter than a Flux 2 for sure, but not as quiet as a KICKR Core. I’m feeling now more than ever we need a new field in your comparison tool for product name pronunciation , Like a little speaker icon that’ll pronounce it for you? Again, with Direto, Elite found a sweet price-feature point. But, there are edge cases where an app won’t do that – and then you get into the pickle like noted above. So here is the most up to date list of products I like and fit the bill for me and my training needs best! Just not the best in ERG mode for short sprints. It’s like trying to move a wall before I can start my training. This desk is both a knock-off of the original KICKR Desk, but yet also better than it. There’s no better test of that than 30×30 repeats (30-seconds at a high resistance, followed by 30-seconds at an easy resistance). lost 50$ but anyway. I did not change the wheel circumference (around 2100 mm) in the Edge 530. In the case of Zwift, I used it in regular riding mode (non-workout mode, aka SIM mode) as well as ERG mode (workout mode). So I was a little bit shot. Still, I didn’t think the road-feel aspect was as nailed on the Flux 2 as the XR. CONS: Your reviews and comments about products most valuable!!! It is 15watts difference, if I go higer like 350w, then direto shows 330watss. It pairs flawlessly to Zwift on my 4K Apple TV unit and Coospo heart rate monitor. In many European countries when they say ‘Race’ they mean ‘Road Bikes’ (because, logically, most other bikes go on the road like commuter bikes). But in doing so, this more powerful Direto kills off the Drivo series trainers from Elite, which were Elite’s prior top-dog trainers. Have you tried on different devices? Had this trainer for 2 years and it's been faultless. It sounds like the XR is “good” but that the H3 is still better. This time the unit was able to do the levels below 50w. However, there’s one thing that bothers me. Level 46 on zwift and a veverest testament to a solid piece of kit. It was over 2 years before any fix was available. Dans ce carton nous retrouvons, le Direto, ses 3 pieds stabilisateurs (à monter), un blocage rapide (5×130/135) avec des adaptateurs pour les axes en 12×142mm. Now It can be used only in “sim mode” due a hidden damage caused by the courier. The installation was simple. There’s a million types/brands/etc. There’s very few cases I’d recommend a wheel on trainer, except to save significantly on budget. The Direto XR transmits data on both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, as well as allowing interactive resistance control across both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart. My first and only direct drive trainer, so I cannot claim to have much experience. You need to change the ‘Trainer Difficulty’ level to 100% in order to feel it (and most people don’t bother to). Any help would be welcome; I’ve been struggling for a few days now and am on the verge of returning the bike. Here’s the high level overview: Here’s a closer look at a few different surges as well. For chainrings, I used 36/19 and a cadence of 90. The Zwift experience is so much more pleasurable. Rides well, not too bad on the noise front. I get a couple of connection drops per session, which can be a bit annoying as you go after a PB. I bought it and the Smart Steering device. Hi Konstantinos, I think that the best choice would be the Kickr Core since I am used to a very very basic trainer (those cheap 80€ trainers you can buy on Amazon). Positioned in the middle in the overall range of trainer prices, these trainers offer the benefits of the higher-priced direct-drive trainers at a more accessible price point. ELITE. Can you give + and – after using it for 2 weeks ? In the case of the above workout, it was after doing 90 mins of relatively hard riding. The most common question I receive outside of the “what’s the best GPS watch for me” variant, are photography-esq based. In addition to the included 11-speed cassette and ramped up internals, the unit also  increases the flywheel weight as well – from 4.2kg to 5.1kg. Thanks, Still going strong. Technically use, but it can be finicky. I use the Direto combined with Zwift, very realistic and accurate power. Check out the BOLD print on their website link to bike.shimano.com. Good enough from cowboy September 27, 2020 Easy setup Accurate power Realistic inertiaWell-built, Elite Direto- Overall very good and worth it from Jan September 25, 2020 Great overall as it is cheaper than the Kickr. It doesn't have smartphone/ANT+/Bluetooth integration, but it does have secondary outlets. Plan Your Full Season. This site contains affiliate links to Amazon, Wahoo, and other brands. Any thoughts on how they compare for noise – both while pedaling and when coasting (admittedly not common during most Zwift sessions, but still a consideration for me)? Do you think we’ll ever actually see the Tuo? The power measurement is very accurate and pretty much matches my power pedals readings. Is it a fitness level difference? Cons: Pairs easily with Zwift on my MacBook Pro every time, but Elite's own myETraining software is pretty yawn-worthy (not as interactive as Zwift). Not sure, but pretty high. In Settings, you will find “Power smoothing”. Big fan of ERG mode and do a lot of workouts - and it works well for me >99% of the time with connection and holding power - really great for the longer intervals I typically do. Home trainers Elite Direto and Tacx Flux are part of this second category. The noise of the trainer is not a concern. And even in the recovery interval it is very difficult to ramp up the cadence. I aim to leave no stone unturned. But wait, are you a female and feel like these things might not apply to you? Easy setup Accurate power Helpful support Budget-friendly. I found some instructions saying I should use a spacer. Firstly, ERG mode can fluctuate more than I would like, and it is slow to recognise that I have stopped pedaling particularly on the downhill (low resistance) sections. Note some trainers do come with them. I have been the happy owner of my Direto since March 2019, having made the upgrade from a dumb trainer. It’s absolutely making it easier because most humans pedal bikes easier and more efficiently at a 80-100rpm cadence than a 50-60rpm one. Just curious, but can’t get my head around why this may be. How and where can I get this information (pay)? Even if you don't have a 4K TV, the 4K version has more powerful graphics than the base, worth the extra $30. The second issue is there is a bit of a delay with power changes in erg mode. Simply crack it open and let it search for nearby trainers: At present there aren’t any firmware updates for the Direto XR, and historically speaking we don’t see Elite do too many firmware updates. Was a life saver during lockdown! Is that bearable for an apartment or should I go for the Core? With the cadence sensor they can offer pedaling anlysis, why not include it with the top of the range trainer… pedaling analysis out of the box would give them a differentiator. I typically do that with my 30×30 test via TrainerRoad, though it doesn’t really matter what method you use as long as you’re looking at big shifts in wattage: Now, I dive into all the nuances of this later on in the accuracy section, specifically including my 30×30 test via TrainerRoad, though it doesn’t really matter what method you use as long as you’re looking at big shifts in wattage. Bluetooth Smart FTMS (Trainer Control): This allows apps to control the Direto XR over Bluetooth Smart (with cadence/power data). So yes, to you have to include the “10s” spacer with the 11-34 11s road cassette. I honestly cannot see why one would need to spend more money on a trainer, unless you put out of 2000W on a sprint or you want accurate simulation for above 12-14% gradients. I own this trainer for 18 months and logged around 3.000 Km with it. Although, realistically, you don’t care about that. There are some bits to nitpick on.
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